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bofoddity ([personal profile] bofoddity) wrote2009-03-08 01:58 pm
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And it continues

I discovered this post earlier today, and.. well, it made me upset. And angry that there was a need for it to be written, because it shouldn't be the people on the receiving side of shit that who to adapt. It goes with how the one who's being stepped is always the one who needs to listen. "You should understand that they bully you because they're so unhappy with yourself." "You should understand how horrible it is for church that they have to let gays get married." "You should understand how horrible it is to be accused of racism." It's always the same thing. This demand for listening nicely ignores the fact that the other side is already doing it. It's kind of not a choice.

And the side that has the choice to listen or not? Usually doesn't. So let's stop with that "we need to meet each other the half-way" crap. (You first.)
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[identity profile] shardsofblu.livejournal.com 2009-03-11 07:44 am (UTC)(link)
And angry that there was a need for it to be written, because it shouldn't be the people on the receiving side of shit that who to adapt. It goes with how the one who's being stepped is always the one who needs to listen. [..] This demand for listening nicely ignores the fact that the other side is already doing it. It's kind of not a choice.

Thank you for putting this so tightly in words.

You're right, it's always the same thing and this time it particularly hit very close to home. Different issues, but the same attitude and mentality. Our friend who's at the center of the whole thing has finally come to the same point like [livejournal.com profile] nojojojo. We're all affected to an extent of course, but since he's the leader he's the one being put under fire the most. Anyone could see that he has made every effort to try and reconcile with those people but no one from their side has ever actually made a genuine attempt to do the same. So we believe we simply need to let them go -- it's time we take care of ourselves instead of wasting time trying to accommodate to their endless whinings and self-entitlement.

[identity profile] bofoddity.livejournal.com 2009-03-11 04:26 pm (UTC)(link)
So we believe we simply need to let them go -- it's time we take care of ourselves instead of wasting time trying to accommodate to their endless whinings and self-entitlement.

I believe that's what is needed, too. I remember running into a blog that dealt with abuse once, and the post I remember the best was one where it was pointed out that forgiving somebody means nothing if the offending party doesn't care. The same applies to situations like these; if the other side has decided to be a wall, there is no point trying to break through it. And if they don't mind it.. well, the hell with them.